“Si alguien es violento ya es un problema personal y no inculcado por el deporte”

Se ha puesto fuertemente en discusión el rugby como deporte y como sistema de valores a partir del asesinato de Fernando Báez Sosa. Se dijo de todo: que es culpa de esa disciplina, que el rugby fomenta violencia y machismo, que hay un “gen dañino”, que es culpa en realidad de los 10 jóvenes, que estas 10 personas perciben la sociedad desde una “supremacía burguesa”, etcétera.

Siempre es un error creer que hay una esencia, porque de esa manera se estarían fomentando estereotipos y fortaleciendo la idea de que, por ejemplo, todo “morocho de gorrita” es un potencial ladrón, que todo cura puede ser pederasta, que el judío es traicionero con los negocios, que el musulmán es terrorista, y un largo etcétera.

Como hay “morochos” ladrones, curas pederastas, judíos traicioneros, musulmanes terroristas, han habido otros casos de rugbiers de clase “acomodada” que dan golpizas en manada y a traición a una sola persona indefensa. En esta nota se pueden ver los tres últimos asesinatos contando el de Fernando, y en esta otra la “larga lista” de agresiones de rugbiers en grupo.

¿Por qué suceden a traición y en grupo? ¿Por qué sucede con personas que practican este deporte, y no en las artes marciales, boxeo, o cualquier otra disciplina de contacto físico?

Las personas que reivindican el rugby insisten positivamente en una idea: el “compañerismo” y “los valores que este deporte trasmite” que llevan a que sea “un estilo de vida”, es decir, una identidad.

Matías Videla, entrenador del Pico Rugby femenino, en una entrevista en 2018, para tentar a mujeres a que se sumen a este deporte, dijo: “Haremos un entrenamiento básico y explicaremos las cosas del rugby que para nosotros es un estilo de vida”.

Quizá esto, que es visto positivamente, puede ser un punto a debatir. Me refiero a ese “compañerismo” o “camaradería” que tanto se fomenta desde el rugby hacia sus pares, ese sistema de valores que se inculca de pequeños como una identidad, como una manera única de “ser”, tanto dentro de la cancha como fuera de ella. Porque una identidad sin fracturas mezclada con la estupidez (que eso sí, es patrimonio de cada uno, independientemente de la religión, la clase social, el deporte o lo que sea que uno profece) puede resultar un combo fatal. Se sabe lo que sucede con los nacionalismos, por ejemplo, o con la idea del “ser nacional” en Argentina, entre tantos otros ejemplos.

No obstante, Revista BIFE abrió el debate y entrevistó a Paz Maxentti (27 años), una jugadora del club Estudiantes de Santa Rosa de rugby femenino, quien opina que los hechos de violencia “son casos aislados”, y reivindica este deporte, que es su pasión, como una enseñanza de vida donde “todos son iguales, tanto hombres, mujeres, grandes o chicos”. Ella lo vive desde adentro, hace dos años es jugadora y ésta es su opinión.

-¿Cómo llegaste al rugby?

Siempre me gustaron las actividades de contacto y de fuerza, y quizas por mi tamaño no me costaba. Como muchas personas cuando se les habla de rugby quizás se cree que es un deporte para algunos pocos, que quizás entiendan del mismo o que tengan determinado cuerpo o algún tipo de entrenamiento en particular. Pero decidí probar qué pasaba y ¡desde el día uno quedé feliz! Y entendí que cualquiera puede jugarlo.

-¿Que fue lo que te llamó la atención en un primer momento?

Lo primero que me llamo la atención fue la facilidad de todos y todas para incluirte y hacerte formar parte de un grupo y un club como si se conocieran de siempre, y que desde el inicio se plantea la importancia de los valores y los buenos tratos, buenos manejos en el grupo, y que todos son iguales de importantes en cualquiera de las funciones que cumpla.

-¿Qué es lo que te gusta ahora de ese deporte, a dos años de practicarlo?

Lo qué más me gusta del deporte es que se intenta fomentar y mantener permanentemente los valores como equipo y como personas individuales. Nos apoyamos entre todas, entrenamos unidas, si se gana se gana en equipo y se festeja entre todas, y si se pierde sirve de experiencia y aprendizaje. Se aprende a preocuparse por lo que le pasa a la compañera de al lado, a ayudar si necesitan y también a pedir ayuda. Más allá de los logros individuales, se trabaja para superar objetivos grupales. Me gusta que todas somos iguales de importantes!

-¿Es un deporte violento? ¿Genera o fomenta violencia?

¡Para nada! Para las personas que desconocen el deporte, viéndolo de afuera suelen creer que lo es, pero detrás de cada takle, golpe o caída, hay una técnica fundamentada, para intentar evitar golpes innecesarios. La fuerza que se genere va a depender quizas de contextura o confianza que cada persona tenga de su cuerpo. Si alguien es violento ya es un problema personal y no inculcado por el deporte. Todo lo contrario, cada mala acción que se pueda llegar a realizar, se intenta retractar.

-¿Que pensaste, sentiste cuando viste el video donde un grupo de rugbiers asesinaban a un muchacho?

En estos casos hay que dejar de lado cualquier tipo de deporte, si su conducta es violenta o son asesinos, bajo ningún punto de vista se le inculca a ninguna actividad, deberían ser un grupo de chicos y fin. Toda la sociedad repudia este tipo de conductas, y como institución de rugby nos perjudica muchísimo que quieran imponer esa imagen, porque intentamos pregonar permanentemente las buenas acciones y la buena voluntad de todos los jugadores. No esta bueno que caigamos todos en la bolsa de “todos los rugbiers son unos violentos y asesinos” porque bajo ningun punto de vista lo somos. Son conductas aisladas y personales que deberian tratarse como tal.

-¿Como ves el tema del machismo en el rugby? Si existe esa idea, ¿cómo se vive eso dentro del rugby femenino?

El rugby como muchos otros deportes estuvo siempre más ligado a los hombres, y creo que es un trabajo de hormiga el que las mujeres hacemos para lograr el reconocimiento deportivo actual. Habrá muchas personas que no esten de acuerdo, pero por suerte somos bien recibidas e incluidas en todos lados. Ya a nivel mundial se estan logrando resultados geniales! Creo que cualquier persona que en la actualidad se oponga a los cambios, va para perder. No sé como será en otros deportes, pero en el rugby somos todos pares, hombres, mujeres, menores y mayores, tenemos los mismos derechos.

-¿Puede ser que esta idea de compañerismo pero exacerbada, con la idea de masculinidad o de “quien es el más macho” puede llevar a que ocurran golpizas desiguales? Te pregunto porque han ocurrido varios casos de que un grupo de hombres que practican rugby golpean a una sola persona.

Primero, la idea de compañerismo en el rugby se aplica más que nada dentro de la cancha. Volvemos al punto de que si hay personas violentas que en momentos de su vida acuden a una golpiza para solucionar asuntos, ya pasan a ser completamente externos a la actividad o deporte que realizan. Pasó con muchísimas personas y no en todos los casos los encasillan como pasó ahora. Volvemos al tema de que quienes ven desde afuera y desconocen el deporte, van a seguir opinando desde la ignorancia que es violento, en lugar de informarse e interiorizarse.

-Comentame un poquito sobre esta idea de que el rugby es un deporte clasista, para determinado estrato social… ¿Es así? ¿Ves eso dentro del rugby?

Es una idea completamente errónea, cualquier persona que lo juega, sabe que no se necesita tener ningún tipo de situación económica. Aparte de que cualquier persona con cualquier contextura física puede jugar, tampoco es condicionante ningún tipo de situación económica. Quizás se puede entender que la ropa necesita algo de inversión pero tampoco limita, porque se busca que en el momento del juego todos estemos en iguales condiciones. Gente de diferentes clases sociales hay como en cualquier tipo de deporte. Por eso insisto en que la gente que opina por ignorancia del tema, debería interiorizarse un poco, o sentarse un minuto con alguien que conozca que haga este deporte y se saque todas las dudas.

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